Naruto Chapter 629 Breakdown: Waiting for the cavelry.

When it comes to disasters, Japan is no stranger to such phenomenon, whether they be man-made or natural. Of course, it stands to reason that they’d be the victim of many a calamity when one considers their place in the “Pacific Ring of Fire”, but that history seems to permeate even in their manga to some degree.

Even at the start of Naruto as a series, the Kyuubi was said to be a calamity that created natural disasters merely by swinging one of its nine tails, ranging from earthquakes to tsunamis, all of which are prominent throughout Japan’s history. When one considers that the Juubi is an even more powerful being, its only natural to assume that the disasters it brings forth in its wake are proportionately more deadly. It’s just a strange irony, however, that we’ve now arrived at one of Japan’s old favorites…

Nuclear disasters…

This only ever happens to the Japanese...

This only ever happens to the Japanese…

If Kishi’s aim was to try to personify the Juubi’s raw power through some visual representation, I think the image above does a very good job of doing precisely that. It’s probably the single largest and most awe-inspiring attack we’ve seen in this series so far, one that almost dares to push the scale of this already epic battle into something that might be on par with one you’d find in a chapter of Dragonball.

However, I think there’s another form of symbolism in this image as well, one that resonates with what I said earlier on about “nuclear disasters”. In essence, what we’re seeing here is not too dissimilar from the dream Pain had described to Naruto during their battle, where the Bijuu’s combined power would be used as a weapon of mass destruction that would serve as a deterrent to war. What better representation is there of a weapon of mass destruction than one that is likened to the image of a nuclear bomb, which is today’s equivalent of the exact weapon Pain described?

I also think that it’s a reflection on the horror and tragedy that comes about from the indiscriminate use of such a weapon, something Japan’s history is familiar with, and thus, subsequently, contrasts sharply with the image of fleeting hope we’re given shortly after the smoke clears.

I'm holding up for a hero!

You’re only a hero if you still know how to look badass after the floor has just been wiped with you. (Artwork by i-azu)

You’ve got to admit, Naruto really is giving it is all here. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a battle in this series where the frail thread of hope has rested more prominently on the efforts of a single individual.

Naruto truly is acting as a pillar for the alliance here. Remove that pillar and the very foundations on which the structure of that alliance now rests may very well crumble and shatter. However, when I talk about Naruto as a pillar, I’m not just reflecting on his strength as a shinobi and his efforts to protect everyone, but also his role as a symbol and role model for his peers. The fact that he isn’t giving up even after exhausting his chakra, and despite the enormity of the threat that faces him, in itself acts as a source of inspiration for those who aren’t as strong as he is.

Even when Naruto falls to his knees after being weakened by the Juubi’s attack, those who he is fighting so hard to protect rally around him and support him with the same strength of will and vigor that Naruto himself has given them.

What do we want?

Just another day on the battlefield until suddenly, out of nowhere, a whole lot of “ass” appears.

If there was ever a time Naruto should transcend to hold the title of Hokage, this would be it. He has proven himself not only as a capable shinobi, but also as a capable leader as well in the way he has rallied those around him. It’s just a pity that Madara still looks down on him and sees so little value in his worth, although this is a sentiment that the Juubi doesn’t seem to share.

So, the amount of people/things that have been inside Naruto now count all nine Bijuu, Bee, Minato, Kushina, Gama (the key toad), Sasuke, Itachi's crow and Dark Naruto. Wow, no wonder he's so messed up in the head.

So, the amount of people/things that have been inside Naruto now count all nine Bijuu, Bee, Minato, Kushina, Gerotora (the key toad), Sasuke, Itachi’s crow and Dark Naruto. Wow, no wonder he’s so messed up in the head.

For me, this was the most interesting part about chapter 629, simply because the Juubi seems to see both the other Bijuu and the Sage of the Six Paths within Naruto – in some form or another. With this in mind, it’s also a scene that brought up a great deal of questions as well.

The first question is; in what manner does the Juubi see the other Bijuu inside Naruto? Does he see their will living on within him, or is it perhaps their chakra or even their spiritual presence that he detects? Is it possible that Naruto has now quite literally become a Jinchuuriki for 7 other Bijuu as well, besides being one for Kurama?

I think a lot of clues that might answer this question can be found in the fact that the Juubi was not the only one to sense the other Bijuu and that Madara sensed it as well.

If by "panicking" you mean he's evolved into Venasaur, I guess you could say that...

If by “panicking” you mean he’s evolved into Venasaur, I guess you could say that…

The fact that Madara also detected the Bijuu inside Naruto heavily suggests that their presence there is more of a physical one than a spiritual or emotional one, which means that Naruto may very well contain them or their chakra in some form or another.

I think we all suspected that there may have been a chakra transfer when Naruto had his “high-five” session with the other Bijuu – especially when we consider the Sage’s prophecy about the arrival of someone who would unite the Bijuu again and lead them down the right path – but this development now seems to further affirm those suspicions.

The Sage's Prophecy

The second question this scene brought up is; in what manner did the Juubi see the Rikudou Sennin within Naruto? I find this question to be the far more intriguing one of the two, mostly because unlike the matter regarding the Bijuu, it’s a question whose answers might give us even more clues about Naruto’s ancestry and heritage. We know that Naruto is an Uzumaki and as such, has some blood relation to both Senju and Uchiha – and thus, to the Rikudou Sennin himself – but I personally think that the relation between the two is even more direct than that.

The first clue that lead me to believe this was the introduction of the Kin-Gin brothers during this war. One feature that these brothers seem to share with Naruto are the whisker marks on their cheeks and although I originally attributed this to some sort of influence from Kurama’s chakra, we know of two other Jinchuuriki that held Kurama that never showed any signs of developing similar aesthetic features because of it. However, another point that came up was that the Kin-Gin brothers were apparently direct descendants of the Rikudou Sennin, which was one of the reasons they were able to wield his legendary items without succumbing to their chakra draining effects. This made me question whether the whisker marks themselves were not a sign of Kurama’s chakra, but rather, a sign of being related to the Rikudou Sennin himself. Perhaps the six marks are a representation of six paths rather than six whiskers.

The second clue lies in Kurama’s own words after Naruto’s reunion with the other Bijuu.

Kurama's MemoriesThe words Kurama thinks here – “it’s been too long… old man” – are words that you’d expect one to say after meeting a long-lost relative after many years of separation. The words themselves suggest that Naruto is not only related to the Rikudou Sennin, but rather, that he is the Rikudou Sennin and that Kurama was reuniting with him in some way after a long time apart. This leads me to believe that Naruto may be the Sage of the Six Paths in a reincarnated form or, at the very least, that Kurama sees the Sages will and spirit being carried inside Naruto.

Of course, Kurama’s words could also be a reference to the prophecy itself – in that he’s reflecting on the fact that it took a long time to come to pass – but I suppose any guess is as good as another at this point.

Venasaur prepares solar beam...

Venasaur prepares solar beam…

Moving past the mysteries of what new stuff has managed to find its way inside Naruto, I have to say that chapter 630 really was the better of these past two installments, especially with the involvement of the other rookies which helped detract from the idea that Naruto was fighting this battle all on his own. In particular, I enjoyed how Shikamaru and Ino seemed to directly inherit the responsibilities of their now deceased parents, with one acting as the new strategist for the alliance and the other acting as the primary source of communication between everyone.

However, as with all good things, there is also the bad, and in this particular case, the spoiled apple that found its way into the otherwise pristine bunch came in the form of Kakashi’s exchange with Obito. I’m not going to go into too much detail, on account of my breakdown already becoming long as it is, but I will say that to me, their conversation just felt like a tired rehash of what we’ve already heard many times before. The only new details of interest involved why Rin died, but even then, I couldn’t help but feel relieved when the scene changed back to the Alliance’s battle.

Luckily for us, the ending of chapter 630 did more than enough to bury any discontent I might have otherwise had. In fact, you can just ignore everything I said in this entire breakdown, because it all pales in comparison to that last page of awesomeness.

DAD! I mean, MINATO!

Dad sure knows how to make an entrance.

I think there mere fact that Minato managed to swallow a Bijuu bomb with his space-time jutsu that an entire army couldn’t stop together, is a testament to the power he holds and the reason he earned the title of Fourth Hokage. However, if Minato warped the juubi’s bomb away to another location in a similar manner to how he warped Kurama’s one away 16 years before, then all I can say is that somewhere in the Narutoverse, someone’s gonna getta hurt real bad.

. . . .

Oh well, we’ll think about that later. For now, this is the end of my breakdown. Sorry it was a bit long, but such is the nature of a double. Here are the winners of last week’s Bubbliton Contest.

3rd) Eugen

Madara: Uchiha, Balls, big wood, Sasuke, Sakura, TENTEN
Juubi: Noooooo, for the love of God, please stop, I’ll grow another hand and slap you to death!!
Caption: You know what hurts other people & monsters when you’ve lived as long as Madara.

2nd) RedBaron

Bubble for Madara; Same thing we do every night Pinky, try to take over the world!
Caption; They’re Pinky and the Brain, Pinky and the Brain. The one is a genius, the other’s insane.

Bubbliton Contest 628 Winner

Nikeairforce03: And thus, the cookie monster was born.

I’m sorry, but I just couldn’t help but laugh at the thought of Madara eating a cookie with that evil, maniacal face. Well done to Nikeairforce03 and everyone else who entered.

Here is this week’s screen.

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The bubbles on the second page can either be used for Obito or Kakashi, whichever you prefer.

Good luck and I’ll see you in the comments! ^ ^

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~ by Tenrai Senshi on May 21, 2013.

116 Responses to “Naruto Chapter 629 Breakdown: Waiting for the cavelry.”

  1. 27th!

  2. thanks you ten for the breakdown.

  3. i still think naruto is like aang!

  4. and to back up that theory about naruto being the reincarnated SO6P, it’s just a simple grammar check. kurama even confirmed that naruto was really the Sage by saying.. “its been too long…old man!” the exclamation point used in the sentence suggests that kurama is saying that naruto is the sage.. or he thinks that naruto is the sage. because if kishi intended to make us think or even say that kurama was “thinking” about the sage, he should have used the ellipsis instead of using the exclamation point. LMAO!

  5. Flex = the new Bono?

  6. has anyone ever think that the juubi also has a name? and learning it, will be a process of being able to control it? something like in the “Flame of Recca” or would it be, in order for Naruto to become the SO6P he should say all the names unlocking their chakra/soul or whatever.

  7. Bubble:
    Obito 1: Why did you have to go and do that Kakashi
    Obito 2: This was my favorite shirt too…
    Obito 3: And another thing before I forget
    Obito 4: I’m pretty sure that’s not proper use of the word Surprise…
    Caption: Don’t Worry Kakashi, I’m sure lots of shinobi suffer from premature evisceration

    Awesomeness breakdown as always =]

  8. Four IS DEATH!!! Tenrai doesn’t count *blows up Tenrai with a RPG*

  9. 32nd, Really great B-down ten, as for the Sage within Naruto I guess we’ll have to wait a bit more to figure what’s really going on.

    @ Chaps, i think you’re on to something regarding your last post and the chanting of the bijuu’s names in order to properly communicate with the Juubi.

    Bubble:
    Obito: I told you a million times, if you want to be friends with Bee you have to learn the proper fist salute.
    Obito: Why would you use you’re Raikiri for a f’ing hand shake?!?!?
    Obito: Dose it look bad???
    Kakashi: You can barely make out Kiba’s skill as a shinobi in the distance.

    Caption: If you can see kiba as a shinobi than the hole is to big to fix with a band aid.

  10. Alrighty! I have a debate to propose for everyone! Actually, it was a debate idea that Iamnotreallyhere came up with so there’s anyone to blame for damages caused, he’s the man to go to. @___@

    It’s a team battle debate. On one side, we have Itachi teamed up with Nagato, and on the other side, Sasuke teamed up with Naruto.

    The rules are that everyone is in their prime. Sasuke has the EMS, etc, Naruto has full control of Kurama’s chakra, Itachi isn’t going blind, nor is he sick and Nagato is healthy and can use the full mobility of his legs. No-one is an edo tensei zombie either, but everyone is entering the fight at full strength. Also, there are no clashing morals within the teams and both pairs of teammates are willing and able to work with their partners.

    So who wins?

  11. Naruto/Sasuke hands down.. First of all Itachi’s Izanami won’t work on Naruto considering it only works on people who can’t accept who they really are, and if Itachi even tries to use some genjutsu in this magintude he’d go blind. He may try it on Sasuke but I also doubt that he won’t be able to get out of it considering he already accepted his faith as a Avenger, considering they are all in full strenght, all jutsus aside, Nagato/Itachi won’t stand a chance against Naruto/Sasuke. I would even pick Naruto over Nagato/Itachi and that’s only considering Naruto’s raw power, and adding Sasuke into this equation with all his advanced taijutsu, Itachi/Nagato won’t even have 10% chance of winning this battle. This debate is too one-sided if you ask me. Lay out all the facts in Narutoverse about this four and let’s make a stat sheet. Naruto and Sasuke are too overpowered at this point in time to have a battle against Itachi/Nagato. We might have a good debate if it was somewhat mixed, like Naruto/Itachi vs Nagato/Sasuke or something like that.. but.. NARUTO/SASUKE!? c’mon guys… are you trying to tell me.. that speed doesn’t kill? that’s the yellow flash’s son and itachi’s brother we’re talking about. they’re both moving too fast for Nagato/Itachi…

  12. Awesome breakdow!!

    Bubblition / Bubble: (I don’t have enough for all the bubbles)

    Obito: “The ass was fat”

    kakashi: “I concur”

    No caption

  13. good breakdown, Ten.

    bubble 1: I told you Kakashi that open heart surgery was a bad idea…
    bubble 2: …but no, you wanted to indulge your fantasies and fulfill your dream of being a surgeon at the same time.
    bubble 3: Yeah…I may have made a slight error during the incision…
    bubble 4: ..damn, no more Icha Icha for me.

    Caption: There’s a reason why business and pleasure don’t mix @_@

    May not be good, but I tried.

  14. Bubblition, Bubbliton, Bubble…

    Bubble 1: I mean crap man, look at that.
    Bubble 2: You don’t see that every day. I mean, that…
    Bubble 3: That doesn’t even really seem possible if you think about it.
    Bubble 4: With body organs and cartilage and bones and…

    Caption: I mean I’m no doctor but it was like one clean chunk!

  15. @Tenrai – Great breakdown

    Bubblition

    Bubble 1: Look what you did!
    Bubble 2: Why did you do that?
    Kakashi Bubble 1: Did I do something wrong?
    Kakashi Bubble 2: Is it too big?

    Caption: Even Pillsbury Doughboy can’t mend a hole this big!

  16. @bret: lol awesome Kung Pow reference 🙂

  17. @arpotu: Thanks!

  18. @Tenrai

    I will have to hand it to Itachi and Nagato (Kills me to have Naruto lose) But Nagato with full mobilty and Six Paths Power is a monster on his on. Itachi is the real unknown as he toyed with Sasuke while ill and going blind. Think they just have more abilities to stop Sasuke and Naruto. It would be one hell of a battle though.

    I really want to just be a fanboy and say NARRRUUUTTTTOOOO but I have to hand it to the Akatsuki on this one.

  19. @ Debate:

    It’s a good debate topic and I actually have one hold back from going all in with Naruto and Sasuke, and that is Itachi’s genius.

    Itachi can find something wrong even with Chuck Norris so any attempt on them from N&S will be speculated and avoided more then 100%.
    Itachi, as we all know, is not a risk taker, he analyzes and conquers.

    I’ll lay out a list of powers these 2 teams have to see who’s got the better chance at victory

    Itachi & Nagato.

    Sharingan (MS) & Rinnegan: Amaterasu, Tsukuyome, Susano’o, Izanami, probably Izanagi also, 6 paths powers (attract, repeal, infinite summoning with immortal beasts, soul snatching, Tomahawk missiles, shared field of vision, flaweless attack and defensive skills, creates a f*ing moon )
    Both Nagato and Itachi are well versed in combat and they both have the ability to lay any country to ruin, and they are both very smart and fast.

    Naruto & Sasuke

    Kyuubi, Rassengan ( infinite deviations of this jutsu), shadow clones, raw power, light speed, extending arms and legs, can be immune to genjutsu and Izanami, Wind style rassen shuriken, EMS (everything Itachi has without drawbacks) masterful use of the Amaterasu, Susano’o with fast arrow shooting. Both shinobi are very fast and very battle smart ( One can call the geniuses in battle), like itachi they can read and react to any situation presented before them. The big bonus is both Naruto and Sasuke have been team mates and they make a great pair in battle.

    This is only a small fraction of what these 4 powerhouses can actually do but I would give it to team 7 just for the history they both had and the amount of power they both obtained in such a short time.

  20. Bubble:

    Obito: Kakashi what have you done?!?!
    Obito: Look at this, I’m probably gonna die now!!
    Kakashi: What did I say before going to sleep?!
    Kakashi: That’s what you get for eating the last cookie!

    Caption: Kakashi always gets the last cookie, even if he carves you up to get it! O_O

  21. @Gendo

    Well, that’s true, Itachi and Nagato truly are monsters, but we also need to take into account that Naruto is defending the entire SA (Shinobi Alliance) against two monsters right now himself – the Rinnegan wielding Madara and the Juubi. We also need to take into account that Naruto can share Kurama’s chakra with others so he could give Sasuke a similar boost as well. Remember how Kakashi’s Kamui was improved so much through Kurama’s chakra to the point where he could even transport something as big as the Hachibi? Now imagine what would happen to Sasuke.

    But, let’s compare a few pointers.

    Ninjutsu:

    I’d say both teams are tied in this regard in terms of the overall power and quality of their ninjutsu. However, I’d say Nagato knows a greater variety of Ninjutsu to anyone else in this battle overall so in terms of quantity, team Natachi wins. It’s just a matter of comparing things like Naruto’s Bijuu bomb or Sasuke’s endless Amatarasu spamming, to Nagato’s Shinra Tensei or Itachi’s Totsuka Sword.

    Genjutsu:

    I’d say Itachi is the king of Genjutsu in this battle and because we know Nagato and Naruto aren’t the genjutsu types, we’re really just comparing Itachi to Sasuke here. I think it’s safe to say Itachi wins so in terms of Genjutsu usage, Team Natashi has the advantage. However, in saying that, I think this is a moot point because I don’t think this is a battle where Genjutsu will even be useful. Naruto has Kurama inside him who can dispel Genjutsu and he can also simply rely on his senses to fight and thus, avoid any form of eye contact with Itachi. As for Sasuke, I don’t think Genjutsu will work on him anymore now that he has Itachi’s eyes and the EMS. Itachi did say that the only way to break Tsukiomi was to have eyes with greater power than his own and Sasuke has Itachi’s eyes combined with his own.

    Taijutsu:

    Well, this is a hard one. Usually I’d say Naruto would be the most dangerous in a Taijutsu match just because of his overwhelming speed, but Nagato is just as deadly in the sense that merely coming into contact with him means that you could have all the chakra sucked right out of you. Itachi and Sasuke are probably on a similar level Taijutsu wise.

    Defense:

    I’d say both teams have incredible defensive capabilities. It stands to reason that Sasuke and Itachi have Susanoo, which is already incredible as it is, but Naruto’s chakra cloak seems to be just as strong as shown when he defended the SA form the Juubi Bomb and Nagato has Shinra Tensei to repel Ninjutsu, as well as the ability to absorb it. It all depends on who has the power to break through those defenses.

    Perceptive skills:

    We’ve got people here with the Rinnegan (expanded field of vision), Sharingan (can see through most attacks and read ninjutsu/genjutsu), and the ultimate chakra/emotion sensor. No-one is lacking in terms of perceptive skills.

    Teamwork:

    This is probably one of the most important factors to consider in this battle. On the one hand, we have team Nasuke. Naruto and Sasuke have been on a team together before and so have learned to work with each other and formed an understanding of each other. I’d say teamwork would come more naturally to them because of this. However, in terms of team Natachi, I’d say both have enough smarts to overcome their brief time together and use their genius tactical abilities to form a cohesive team strategy. It all just depends on which team we think works better as a pair and how they complement each other.

  22. @Eugen and to add something to sasuke’s light speed which he already has is a chakra cloak from the naruto.. well, that will be to overpowered if you ask me. it’s like taking a legendary sword and adding legendary shield.

    probably with that speed nagato and itachi won’t be able to do hand seals.

  23. Oh, I forgot to add one more point.

    Endurance:

    I think that team Nasuke has an advantage here because Naruto has access to Kurama’s chakra and he can give it freely to Sasuke as well. With a Bijuu’s chakra to keep them going, I can definitely see Sasuke and Naruto outlasting Nagato and Itachi in a long battle, so in terms of stamina they win.

  24. You’ve forgot to take a side Ten, Like my previous comment, we both came to the conclusion that the best teamwork will decide the victorious side.

    I for one would give it to the Kids but only at a whim. This is truly a monstrous battle.

  25. @debate naruto will still the upper hand in this battle because he has the ultimate jutsu in narutoverse and that is the “talk no jutsu”

  26. @ Chaps, so true, I’m a bit sad we haven’t seen the extent of Sasuke’s new found powers and after he joins the Alliance we can have a better understanding of this debate. Who knows, Via Kishi, Sasuke might bring Madara to his knees in 2 seconds flat and have enough time for left over cheese cake.

  27. Bubble 1 (Top left): I was showing off my new clothes to Tenrai Senshi.
    Bubble 2: (Top right): But when I told him, “Eat your heart out!”
    Bubble 3: (Lower left): I didn’t expect him to take it literally!
    Bubble 4: (Lower right): You see what that mad man did to me?!
    Caption: Obito discussing his “flesh wound” to his health insurance agent.

  28. Bubblition:

    Bubble 1 Top left: Seriously!
    Bubble 2 top right: Are you kidding me?
    Bubble 3 Bottom left: I asked for a sports massage with some light electrotherapy
    Bubble 4 Bottom right: not a Raikiri through the chest!

    Caption: Kakashi always liked it rough

  29. @Tenrai: “It all just depends on which team we think works better as a pair and how they complement each other.”
    Precisely my thoughts. I wanted to strengthen this argument with a panel that I couldn’t find yesterday. I don’t seem to recall precisely where in the storyline this occurred, maybe someone here does? It’s a panel where Naruto learns which chakra types are efficient against each other. Naruto probably already knew he had wind chakra. When he learns this, either Kakashi or Tenzou (whoever’s with him at the moment) think he’s disappointed because his wind is inefficient against Sasuke’s fire and lightning affinity, but actually, he is disappointed because his wind would greatly complement Sasuke’s abilities had they still been a team.

  30. Team Rocket is out! http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/631

  31. it’s out! http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/631

  32. One word described this new chapter: EPIC!!

  33. Well, bit of a spoil but damn, I had a lot of difficulty not screaming LOL out loud while at work at the panel where Sasuke greets his former mates stating what he wants to become.

  34. What. A. Chapter.

    Will wait a bit to discuss.

  35. i’ll wait for the mangastream release before i start discussing things here. just for a little clarity.

  36. What I liked about the chapter:
    Minato showed why he was a Hokage. His lighting fast badassery was on full display. He is the fastest Hokage ever, maybe even the fastest ever. He was able to set up the circle to start the seal. He somehow was able to take full control of Kurama’s chakra like it was play dough. And even before all that, he was able to teleport a whole Jubbi Dama out to sea!!!

    The 1st using Sage techniques showing that Minato wasn’t the only one who learned a thing or two about sealing from him Uzumaki wife (Mito). He straight up trolled Madara. Madaras face when Hashi said “not now” priceless lol

    The Bad:
    Sauske. He is such a volatile character. I strongly don’t like how much his character changes. He just isn’t cool anymore. At one point he is non chalant, another point he wants to kill his brother, the next he wants to destroy konoha, or kill the kages, then he wants to protect the village. The Ultimate slap in the face was him stating he wanted to become Hokage. I strongly don’t like how Kishi has been writing Sauske. He has basically given Sauske the reigns to do what ever he wants with no ramifications. Ino and Sakura were on his balls right when he appeared. Naruto had to work hard to get to where he is. And Kishi has the audacity to make Sauske say “you know what, screw You Naruto, I will be another obstacle in your way and become Hokage.” Kishi could have easily have made Sauske say “My brother loved this village dearly, and died fighting to protect it, I will care for this village as dearly as he did, and protect it to the very end” How hard is it to write that and make him redeemable.

    Another sour Note was Sakura wanting to be included in the greatest assembly of Konoha history. I don’t think she is anywhere near the level of Naruto, Sauske, MAdara, Hashi, Hiruzen, tobirama, Minato, Tobi, and KAkashi. This wasn’t even a reunion of Team 7. It was a partial assembly. She would not have joined Naruto if Sauske wasn’t there. She has such a hard on that when Naruto said, stop, she gave him the death stare (craze fan girl status)

    What I noticed:
    Madara looked like he was enjoying himself. He didn’t look like he had any animosity to Hashirama. His smile was kinda nostalgic. Like “thats the same ol’ Hashirama”. It’s going to be fun seeing those guys go at it. Maybe in the end they might ride unicorns over a rainbow, never to be seen again.

    I also noticed Minato didn’t have the whiskers Ten was talking about, when Minato went into Kurama Chakra Mode. So, that might mean something. I really liked how Kishi made Minato look exactly like Naruto in his chakra mode. It’s going to be fun seeing them in the same mode, Naruto is going to look like a minature version lol.

    I’m not going to try and give my opinion on this whole relationship status thing going on in the Narutoverse. I still think Naruto should wait until he’s 18 and go after Anko! NaurAnk FTW!

  37. I just couldn’t resist commenting after reading that chapter.. So many things happening all at the same time but I can’t seem to stop focusing on the most asinine statement I’ve ever read in this manga!!!!!! My forehead is currently sporting a massive bump from banging it so hard on my desk!

    “I will become Hokage.” ghjasgjhgdhjghgasjhdgsjhgDJHhghadghjsg!!!!!!
    For the love of god, I sincerely hope that this is nothing more than a translation error or that I’m super stoned and hallucinating, because THAT.DID.NOT.JUST.HAPPEN!!!!!

  38. Holy Mother of God. The epicness of what I just read is about to make my body implode.
    Minato has the same seal Naruto uses with the Kyuubi chakra, the other kages are above 10.000 and Sasuke will become Hokage just after Naruto beats the crap out of him and he will consider him worthy of leading the people. So the village will vote for Naruto and Naruto will choose Sasuke as the first Uchiha Hokage.

    I really can’t describe this chapter, I’ll also wait for the MS translation and will return once I’ve re-read it.

  39. @thelaughingwiseman just like what me and the others discussed awhile ago.. Sasuke is somewhat an option to being the hokage of konoha.. Why? Because in order for the cycle to be broken someone has to step down, and that is naruto..

    Naruto, for me now has a greater purpose, other than being the hokage of the leaf..

    If people cant accept that, then you havent accepted the fact that you, me and everybody else should stop the hatred going against the uchiha..

  40. I think kishi inteded that to happen, that we as readers should also have a change of heart towards the uchiha.. If naruto can do it, we should too.. Lmao

  41. Lol Eugen, Naruto appointing Sasuke the pity-hokage. Abso-fucken-lutely not gonna happen.

  42. I can’t see Naruto giving up the title just for Sasuke. I think its more that would kill me. We have read/watched this series and I would assume most of us have been looking forward to seeing Naruto made Hokage. That is the payoff. Kishi wouldn’t take that away from us and make Sasuke Hokage…..please no.

    @iamchaps i can see your reasoning though and it sounds very Naruto-like

  43. Great breakdown ten… ik it is a rule not to go against ten/ kishis predictions but I do not think naruto is a reincarnation of the ssp I though when kurama said that it was because the tail beast will finally be free

    Oh and narusaku all the way!!!!!!!!!
    I loved this chapter pure epic ness and finally sakura will do something

  44. @iamchaps
    Its not a hatred for the Uchiha per se but a general, unspoken loathing towards a particular flaky, massively self-involved, people-should-only-pay-attention-to-me-the-world-be-damned Uchiha. Honestly, the thing that’s got me so agitated by that vomit-inducing declaration is that the moment I read it, I saw a very clear picture of that actually happening. Kishi has brilliantly planted a seed in the readers’ brains and it’s gonna stay there!

    And as far as having a change of heart goes… boy, that’s a herculean task Kishi’s given, if that was indeed his intention. Well, at least in Sasuke’s case. He’s written Sasuke to be such an unlikeable character these past few years that its gonna take more than just a grand gesture to get us, the readers, to go from active dislike to okay-I-promise-i’ll-think-about-it. And it sure doesn’t help that Obito’s been rapidly creeping up to him on the annoying list thanks to the past few chapters.

  45. well, i didn’t say naruto would give up being hokage, i just think he has a greater task ahead of him after this war. well if he becomes hokage then i’m fine with that, but right now, naruto’s resposibility has already surpassed to what a hokage should do. he has united all countries during this event, and i think he should be somewhat become more than just a hokage.

  46. i think sakura’s upto something, or should i say, something like her own sage mode?

  47. Pure effin epicness to the bone marrow, minato introducing himself – btw whtsup with sakura asking who he is or don’t they teach history @ the ninja academy – then telling them to brace themselves for the impact… ***shivers from the pure coolness***, still reading will coment later on.

  48. here we go….first off, this chapter was so epic i actually seized after reading it. MInato even had the second going “damn lol”. but to the meat of my post here’s my prediction:
    I think what kishi did was very smart in terms of Sasuke. We all want that Naruto vs Sasuke battle, but it was getting harder and harder to keep sasuke evil with all this stuff about Itachi coming to light. This way Naruto and Sasuke can still have their all out battle but for the title of Hokage. As far as that goes I have a feeling that they will tie and that it will lead to them both being Hokage leading to a new tradition of 2 Kages per village.

  49. @ Wise great observations all @, and I agree to the T.
    @ ZZ, as Chaps said Naruto is beyond Hokage status but he will fight for the title non the less, I think Naruto will become a world Kage that will rule all countries and Sasuke will be appointed Hokage of the Leaf but will answer to Naruto as a greater leader. It’s just a guess but It’s my own personal view on the matter, who knows, anything can happen.

    Previous hokages were great, also as Wiseman said, the expression on Madara’s face when he got sent to the side lines by Hashirama made me burst into a laughter so loud I almost costed my cat a whole life :)).

    Sasuke’s attitude, as most replied, was very rude, to be gentile, One dose not simply claim the title of Hokage by himself “read that with Boromir’s voice”, Becoming Hokage is a process Naruto already went through and for sasuke to reach that point he’ll have to kill the Juubi, kill Obito, save everyone from a Juubi attack so powerful it would have killed Naruto, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Bee and Orochimaru and on top of that give the last cookie to Tenrai.

    That is without a doubt not going to happen in a million years, no one just gives away the last cookie. So in conclusion Sasuke cannot become Hokage unless he is appointed the title by Naruto.

    Moving toward Sakura, please Tenrai/Kishi, for the love of God, give the girl sage mode, or something really powerful, because if she won’t present even a hint of power closely to what Gai and Kakashi can use than the girl utterly useless as a combat shinobi.

  50. Come on with the comments New People, If this isn’t the time to come out of lurker mode than I don’t know what else to say. I promise the first 10 members to comment aren’t going to be eaten by Tenrai and we’ll offer free cheese cake.
    Join the fray and let’s over-post the hell out of this blog and surpass IRA!

  51. Sorry for the spamming but can someone please tell me how in hell did Minato take control of the other half of the Kyuubi chakra and went into the Chakra Mode A.K.A The Bad Ass Mode so fast?!?!?

    Naruto almost got squashed trying to take away the chakra form Kurama and all of a sudden Minato pops by for a visit and, hey, look at what I can do, it only took me 20 minutes to learn while Hashi was telling Sasuke a cute story, oh an by the way I also sent the Juubi Dama at sea and imprisoned that bitch while I was at it.

    What have you been doing for the last 16 years Naruto?!?! If you think about it Minato is the biggest troll in the world right now.

    It’s even worse then when SSj2 Goku fought Majin Vegeta and guess what the dude could have gone SSJ3 on the sayan prince’s ass all along but he decided not to hurt the pore guy’s feelings so he decided to take a beating instead.

  52. @eugen BLASPHEMY! ITACHI is the biggest troll ever. No because Minato probably mastered it during his time in the Shinigami’s stomach.

    Bubblition: Shot in the heart and you’re too late.
    You give love a bad name.
    Was this very line use in a previous caption. Plus I don’t love you.
    God dammit!
    Caption: Originality is hard to come up with these days.

  53. @ Kanton, You can call it a tie between Minato, Sasuke, Madara and Itachi.

  54. I was going to lurk in the background some more but Eugen’s promise of free cheesecake forced my hand. Cheesecake is my Kryptonite.
    Anyway, this chapter was epic but it seemed to put a nail in the NaruHina coffin. I really like Hinata and think she would be best for Naruto but unfortunatly he doesn’t seem to agree and is concentrating on a pink-haired dominatrix. Speaking of the pink-haired Yamcha stand-in, it seems she has learned Tsunades byakugo or whatever that move where she stores chakra and heals everything is called. At least thats the impression I got from when she says “I’ve almost stored enough chakra”. Even so, I still don’t think she will be anymore useful than she usually is (which is to say – not very).

    Bubblition : Obito : “Ha-ha, yo think this will stop me”
    Kakashi “Obito, stop acting so tough, you’re almost dead”
    Obito “No, how did you know I was acting”
    Kakashi “I can see right through you..”
    Caption “Kakashi, Master of the double entendre”.

  55. When I saw Sakura joining in on the action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSAKHLbCUGk

  56. @ constantinethetrickster, I so glad you joined, welcome to WRA and great point observing something most of us did but haven’t commented upon. I also disagree with Naruto, Hinata is the perfect choice for naruto and above all she’s the one that supported him every step of the way.

    I know Tenrai will fill the blog with great reasons why she’s better then Sakura, main reason, she’s the only one who jumped in front of death twice for Naruto (Pain & Obito attacks)

    Welcome again to the blog and the brotherhood and tell me where to send the cheesecake.

  57. Personally – I think NaruHina is still a possibility. Sakura is still hots for Sasuke and Naruto could have meant that Sakura was his “girl friend” and not “girlfriend”. He’s always known that he couldn’t stand a chance with Sasuke around anyway.

    It will definitely be interesting with Team 7 reunited again – although Sai should participate as well since he is Team 7 anyway.

    Minato with a shroud? Too awesome for words. But also unexplainable unless he mastered it in the Death God’s tummy… Would be better if he gave that power back anyway (unless that power is his own and not Kurama’s).

    Kurama giving props to Minato. Now I’ve seen it all… 🙂

    Madara being verbally bitch-slapped to the sidelines was just as entertaining.

    *implodes*

  58. @ Wise :)))))) =)))))) I know that feel bro :)))

  59. @ Todd, I’m a bit lazy to go search but think Zabuza or some other Edo Zombie pointed out that between his death and the resurrection it seem’ed like only a second had gone by.

    So with that being said, I think Minato didn’t have a consciousness while inside the Reaper. I actually think Minato was working on this cloak seal while Kushina was still alive and the jinchuriki of Kurama but he didn’t get around to finish it. So maybe he figured if Naruto and Kurama were working as a team now he could use the same power too. Maybe he spoke to the other half of the Kyuubi inside him and came to the same conclusion Naruto and Kurama did.

    I guess we’ll have all the answers in 2-3 weeks max.

    Team 7 for the win (Naruto and Sasuke only)

  60. The seal Hashirama uses on the Juubi seems to be the same as the one Naruto used on Kuruma. Wasn’t it this seal that convinced the Kyuubi that Naruto was connected to the sage in some way? Also the impression I got was that Sasukes turnaround was because he learned the Uchiha were allies of the leaf and not always considered a ‘cursed clan’. Up to that point he had only heard the Uchiha mentioned as the villains and so he acted like they were portrayed. Now that he knows they worked to create and help the leaf he is trying to act as he believes the other Uchiha did. I think what Sasuke is trying to do is connect with his clan in any way that he can, if he hears they are villains he acts as a villain, if he hears they worked to save the leaf village well then, he works to save the village. He has issues and I think the theme in Naruto is follow your own path and that is somethng Sasuke just wont do.
    Another thing I notoced is that Minato only has the first stage of the Kyuubi cloak. This means he was able to force the Kyuubi to give up its chakra but he hasn’t bonded with it so they aren’t working together like Naruto is with Kuruma.
    P.S Eugen, send the cheesecake to Sakura – I think shes going to need cheering up (and saving) pretty soon. What the hell is she thinking. Even Tsunade would be a fifth wheel in that situation. I think Sakura has a bloated over estimation of her masters usefulness. Both of them are basically standing in the shadow of their teammates.

  61. @ Constantine, First of all, grab a photo and add a stylish look to you’re gravatar to better suit your personality, that’s the fastest way for us point out the members, personally ZZ’s random gravatar is the only one I recognize out of the default ones. And I urge everyone to do this, if they want to of course.

    Excellent point on the Minato cloak, but so far Naruto hadn’t used the 2nd stage cloak without the Kyuubi avatar so maybe Minato had achieved peace with the Kyuubi inside him but he didn’t chose to bring it out yet, but still it might be as you pointed out also.

    As for Sasuke, he sure is like a clean canvas, in Itachi’s words, anyone can paint Sasuke’s future, at least if they mention the Uchiha Destiny. :))

    Now I for one truly hope Sakura can reach a level close to what Konan could do, we’ve been missing a very strong kunoichi in this manga and besides Mei (5th mizukage) and Konan, there haven’t been any strong female shinobies in the story.
    Anyone can point Tsunade out, but just as you said, she’s the one that drew the short straw in Hiruzen’s squad with both Orochimaru and Jirayia excelling in Smarts and Raw Power, Tsunade only learned medical ninjutsu and how to throw a great jab, other than that she’s pretty much useless.

  62. I could see two kages happening, or even a world kage.

    I think if that happened, it’s be like kamikage or something. Like Divine Shadow or maybe Sage Shadow.

  63. Excellent chapter, however..

    How in the hell would Minato have the knowledge and skill to use Kurama’s Yin chakra? The guy died within minutes after the sealing, if I’m not mistaken. No time at all to figure out its usage.

  64. @Tenrai regarding the debate – what about frog fu when Naruto battle Pein.

    As for Sasuke wanting to be Hokage, this will be the need for the all out fight between Naruto and Sasuke. Similar to the promise made to Konohamaru by Naruto for the title of Hokage.

  65. @the4thsannin – I think its because he only had to force the Kyuubi to give up its chakra. He didn’t have to go through all the waterfall of truth stuff because he wasn’t secretly full of hate or resentment. And as quick as he is, it wouldn’t take him long to beat the kyuubi at half power.

    I’m just throwing this out there as a debate topic, but its being bugging me for a while. The Raikage covers his body in chakra drastically increasing his speed and strength and the Hyuuga clan can basically do the same. Neji made a big fuss about them doing this during the chunnin exams. So my question is – why don’t they do this all the time. I know the Raikages lightnig style increases the synapse firing rate which allows them to move faster but I refuse to believe there would be no benefit to the Hyuuga doing this. As a matter of fact this is basically what Naruto does in his Kyuubi cloak and his strength and speed increase as well. Can you imagine how much better the Hyuuga clan would be if they did this. With their byakugan allowing them to see everywhere at once and the increased speed and strength of a chakra cloak they would definetly be considered a great clan and would be a true rival for the Uchiha!! I would love to see Hinata do this to show everyone what she is worth.

  66. I’m calling it now… The series will end with sasuke actually beating Naruto in a semi-friendly match and taking the hokage’s seat … then some “unfortunate” event might kill one of them 😀

  67. For your amusement.

    “Sorry for the spamming but can someone please tell me how in hell did Minato take control of the other half of the Kyuubi chakra and went into the Chakra Mode A.K.A The Bad Ass Mode so fast?!?!?”

    He didn’t. Well, not so fast anyway. He’s been sealed inside the Death God’s stomach along with Kyuubi for 16 years. So he had 16 years to take control of Kyuubi’s chakra.

    But anyway, even if he did do it in the short time span… Why are you surprised? It’s Minato. ^__^

  68. Could end up in a similar way to the last airbender. Naruto the savior (Avatar). Sasuke the Hokage (suko firelord)..i believe minato had it easier just because he had kurama’s chakra, while naruto had the kyuubi physically.

  69. As for the debate, Itachi and Nagato win.

    Itachi can use Izanami on Sasuke while Nagato can use all of the Sages’ 7 powers to cancel out Naruto’s.
    Naruto’s cloak can be absorbed, Naruto’s Bijuu Dama can be Shinra Tensei’d and with his summons Nagato has Naruto’s speed covered as well.
    But even if Naruto manages to catch Nagato off guard Nagato will drain Naruto’s chakra like he did with Bee when Bee rampaged him.

    The only thing I’m unsure about is whether Sasuke can resist Izanami with his (superior) EMS and if he’s capable of using the Sword of Totsuka. If he can then it’ll be a lot tougher for Itachi and Nagato but they’ll probably still win because Itachi is a genius tactician and combatant and knows everything about Sasuke.

    And Nagato is basically an army of S-Rank Ninjas in one luscious Christmas gift pack.

    “they’re both moving too fast for Nagato/Itachi…”

    Nagato had no problem whatsoever fighting both Naruto in Super Saiyan mode and Bee in beast mode. As a matter of fact, he made it look easy. And he wasn’t even in full control of his actions.
    The same goes for Itachi vs. Bee. Sasuke could see Bee move when they fought but couldn’t do much to defend against Bee. He almost got killed twice. Itachi, however, had no problem whatsoever fighting Bee.
    So no, neither Naruto nor Bee move too fast for Nagato or Itachi.

    “He may try it (Izanami) on Sasuke but I also doubt that he won’t be able to get out of it considering he already accepted his faith as a Avenger”

    If there’s one man whose been flip flopping all over the place it’s Sasuke. So I don’t accept he has accepted his role as avenger. Especially now that he has no desire of avenging his brother whatsoever.
    We’ve seen Sasuke can be easily manipulated. I don’t doubt for a second Izanami won’t work on him for the reason you mentioned.

    “and if Itachi even tries to use some genjutsu in this magintude he’d go blind.”

    This is true. Actually, the use of either Izanami or Izanagi uses up all the light in the eye that’s used to create the illusion and closes that eye permanently. But unlike Tsukuyomi for instance it doesn’t use up large amounts of chakra or effect Itachi (apart from the eye closing of course). It’s a technique that can be used for a set time. Danzou’s Izanagi lasted 10 seconds per eye. Tobi’s Izanagi, however, lasted 10 minutes. It’s a one off technique but a very powerful one that doesn’t cripple the user chakra wise.

    “and adding Sasuke into this equation with all his advanced taijutsu, Itachi/Nagato won’t even have 10% chance of winning this battle”

    Sasuke’s advanced taijutsu were outmatched by Bee’s taijutsu. The same Bee that couldn’t lay a finger on either Nagato or Itachi. If Sasuke has a chance of defeating Nagato and his brother, taijutsu isn’t it.
    Especially against Nagato with his extra arms, chakra draining and soul snatching technique, taijutsu is basically suicide.

  70. **So no, neither Naruto nor ! Sasuke ! move too fast for Nagato or Itachi.**

  71. Just what tenrai said and ive agreed upon.. Minato had the easy way into tapping in the kyuubi’s chakra, because he didn’t have to fight with kurama since kurama was inside naruto, all minato had in him was the other half of chakra.. He might have figured out how to use it when he realized that naruto was already using it when they were resurrected.. And i was also thinking that minato’s bloodline is the one that can change shape/form to be passed unto others.. Just like what he did when kushina and him were about to die. He took kushina’s and his chakra and stored some inside naruto.. This might also be the reason he can teleport anybody just by touvhing them.. Because if not he should be doing the same thing as his three bodyguards, wherein they form a triangle just to to teleport a person.. Maybe it takes time to mold their chakra to the shape of the person which is going to be teleported.. Now the question is.. Is minato using the other half of kurama’s chakra and is the gift he was talking about.. Is sakura going into her own sage arts? Or is she going to show signs that she can also be like the mizukage or konan, or maybe surpass tsunade.

  72. And yeah i think naruto is like Aang.. The last airbender.. Lmao

  73. @iamchaps and if he is somebody *ready laser cannon* gonna die. Whether it’s Kishi and/or his editor. I just have to make sure it’s the older Kishi twin not the younger one.

  74. @constantinethetrickster thanks for the explaination, it does make sense, i suppose…considering nothing else would @_@

  75. @1redbaron1 – Nagato can’t absorb Naruto’s chakra if Naruto is in Sage mode.

  76. Am I the only one excited about team 7 fighting together again? I realized something while reading this chapter that really I’ve known for a long time, but for some reason really stood out to me today. Which is the fact that Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura were all individually trained by the Sannin. I bring this up cuz I feel like Sakura has always gotten the short end of the stick regarding that seeing how powerful Naruto and Sasuke have become. But I think she’s definitely about to unleash a Tsunade-level form of “Regeneration Seal” that will give her a huge power boost and put her very friggin close to, if not on the same level of the major players fighting around her. Now I’m not sayin she’ll be as powerful or influential as Naruto and Sasuke, but honestly I think she deserves it. She’s been left behind a lot by her peers and told to “let them handle it” kind of thing. It just feels right to me for her to be powerful enough to have a larger role in the battle other than healing everyone. If there’s one thing we’ve learned from this manga, it’s that history tends to repeat itself. Tsunade was surely the least powerful in a “battle sense” of the Sannin, but she was still a Kage in her own right, so really I have no problem with her asserting herself and joining in with Naruto and Sasuke.

    On a lighter note, Madara’s face when Hashirama told him to wait his turn was priceless hahaha….the whole chapter was just pure awesomeness.
    Except Sasuke wanting to be Hokage now…not sure how I feel about that yet.

  77. @ Dish, You know we always see eye to eye on everything, but if Sakura is gonna step up along side Naruto, Sasuke, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato and Bee she’ll have to bring something really badass to the table, and I mean REALLY BAD ASS.

    The healing skills Tsunade had while in her Unleashed forehead seal mode were only a temporary izanagi if you will, just enough not to get killed, but her sheer power was nowhere near good enough to stop Madara, who wasn’t even trying so hard.

    If Sakura is gonna use something cool she better use a Slug Sage Mode that will allow her to harness the true Genjutsu potential inside her (her primary affiliation), and who knows she might even bring something on the same level Ma and Pa frog used against the 6 paths of Pain when the J-Man fought with them.

    If you think about it Sakura is like a kage bunshin for Naruto in terms of collecting Natural Energy, and that’s probably what she’s gonna do, she might be storing the Energy in her seal and unleash it in battle all at once, and because she can store the energy for long periods of time, like Tsunade did, she can probably stay in sage mode for a lot longer than Naruto. Who knows, Kishi gave us worse things before, like Tenten killing a Zetsu:))

    Other then that is nothing short of a suicide attempt for her.

  78. @ Barron, I’ll throw a couple of tactics Naruto and Sasuke might use against Itachi and Nagato regarding your battle plan for team Akatsuki.

    Sasuke with the EMS is a very big unknown variable in this equation, the foresight of those eyes might be extraordinary and he might pick up every little intention Nagato and Itachi will have to strike of come up with, that added with Naruto’s sage mode or his Kyuubi mode perception will most likely be enough to counter anything the other team will throw at them, also Naruto with sannin mode can feel the best moment to strike Nagato in the time between shinra tensei fire (5 seconds if I’m not mistaken).

    Sasuke can probably even cast Izanagi and Izanami without loosing the light in his eyes seeing he has the EMS now. That remains to be seen in the upcoming battle.

    Naruto already managed to trick the six path of pain with his tactics of fast terrain transformation shadow clones so with the added bonus of the chakra cloak he is fast enough now to knock out Nagato on a counter attack.

    The only guy I’m really worried about is Itachi, as you said that guy is a killing machine and a prodigy of battle tactics and jutsu understanding. If Itachi can outlast the attacks of Sasuke and Naruto he might easily stab them with the totsuka sword, Naruto might use shadow clones in order to evade being sealed for good and attack on the counter and Sasuke will probably use his Susano’o also but it’s still a huge gamble.

    Also Sasuke is now a expert Amaterasi user and just as Itachi used it to cripple Nagato’s eyesight in the Naruto, Bee, Itachi vs Nagato fight, so could Sasuke do now.

    The timing in this fight will be crucial and seeing as Naruto is the fastest fighter on the field, that power might tip the scales a bit in the kids favor.

  79. @Baron

    I personally don’t think the Izanami will work on Sasuke anymore. He seems to be resolute in his path now and the Izanami only works on those who don’t know who they are or who are unsure of themselves. Sasuke didn’t seem to have any doubts anymore after he made his decision to become Hokage.

    Then again, I guess you never really know with Sasuke… X___X

    Still, one thing I think we shouldn’t do is compare the past Naruto and Sasuke to Itachi and Nagato. You’re using examples from when Naruto fought Nagato or Bee fought Sasuke, but both Naruto and Sasuke have become immeasurably stronger since that time. Naruto was only using a fraction of Kurama’s chakra when he fought Nagato and Itachi with Bee, but now they are partners and his speed and power have increased dramatically thanks to that, while Sasuke has gone from barely being able to use Amatarasu against Bee, to now having full control of his MS, in addition to now having the EMS.

    We also need to remember that Naruto is currently battling a Rinnegan user on a level probably greater than Nagato and the Juubi at the same time, all the while defending the entire SA from harm. The fact that he’s managed to last so long makes me think that with someone as strong as Sasuke on his side and his ability to share chakra would make the battle a lot less one sided.

    I do, however, agree with you that Nagato has exceptional chakra absorption abilities and that coupled with the Shinra Tensei makes him a very tough cookie to crack. I think Naruto’s speed makes him capable of getting past the five second cooldown of Shinra Tensei, but the chakra absorption is harder to deal with. There are ways however and I think Sage Mode or Amatarasu do offer some flexible possibilities. We also can’t be sure if Nagato’s Shinra Tensei can deflect a Bijuu Bomb or if he has the capacity to absorb such a large mass of chakra all at once.

    All-in-all, I’d say that if you take into account the teamwork possibilities of each team and not just their individual power, the battle looks pretty even, especially if each teammate makes up for each other’s weaknesses. I don’t see either side having an easy time landing a hit on the other just because they all have such strong defenses, from chakra cloaks, to speed, to Susanoo, to chakra absorption or even Shinra Tensei.

  80. @eugen she should bring really something bad ass on that table.. because if she doesn’t, ill put her on that table. 😛

    but i also think that she has definitely some trick under her pants. some sage art of some sort.

  81. anyone has an idea to as whether or not sakura has sage art. i really don’t get what tsunade could have taught her. and i have no clue to whether tsunade really taught her something in a short period of time. but.. kabuto did managed to pull off a sage art.

  82. so if tsunade managed to do strenght of a hundred tech, i’m thinking sakura did managed to master the same jutsu and then upgraded it, and i think she would call it strenght of a thousand technique.

  83. @ Chaps, Most likely Tsunade took a gamble when she saw Naruto’s exceptional training in the sage art with the perfect result and she considered that might also apply to her student, so she must have sent Sakura with Katsuiu (I think that was the name of Tsunade’s slug summon) to the slug sage training place and Sakura must have undergone the trials herself.

    As far as we know all the sannins were trained in the sage arts but only the J-Man had a almost perfect result, I’m not sure if Orochimaru actually found the Snake sage place but couldn’t complete the training or didn’t find it at all, I think it was the first, either way Oro can probably go into sage mode now seeing he absorbed his power back from kabuto and saw everything he achieved to that point, a bit like Naruto gaining the shadow clone’s intel after the dispel.

    Now it’s the case of whether or not Tsunade couldn’t learn the sage arts herself and only adapted a small part of her training to what she already knew.

    I will stick to this premise for now and I will place my money on Sakura undergoing and passing the sage training of the slugs. I won’t acknowledge her anything less than that.

  84. @ lackofimagination, I guess we’ll find out soon enough, either way Minato proved his a total badass yet again with his entrance.

  85. @Eugen i’de stick with your idea. that’s also what i’m thinking. and i think oro found the snake sage but didn’t had the time to learn it since his hands were sealed.

    let’s see next chapter whether we would see a battle team 7/resurrected kages against juubi/madara or a kakashi vs tobi one.

  86. and oh.. by the way.. what is “hermit art” is it the same one naruto uses or a different one? http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/94426240/12

  87. @ Chaps, it’s definitely sage arts but who knows what type it is, so far Hashirama has only been known to use Mokuton Summoning and that gigant Budda other than that I can’t actually say where and from whom he learned the sage arts.

  88. well, i taught about it and asked ten. he might have trained on his own since he can freely use senjutsu while moving. or it may be because of his affinity to wood jutsu.

  89. @iamchaps Oro did find it but his body at the time didn’t have the capacity for it.

  90. Found it:
    http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/579/16
    http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/579/17

    So as Kabuto states there are 3 places sages can be trained: Mount Myōboku (Mysterious/Exquisite Tree Mountain) = The Frog Land,
    Ryūchi Cave (Dragon Ground Cave) = Snake/Dragon Land
    Shikkotsu Forest (Damp Bone Forest) = Possibly the Slug Land

  91. Shikkotsu Forest (Damp Bone Forest) Wasn’t that where Jugo comes from. I seem to remember him saying his technique was a type of sage art.

  92. @ Constantine, Juugo is from a village near the Ryuchi cave (Dragon Ground Cave) :http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/579/16.

    The same place Orochimaru and Kabuto trained at to become Sages.

    The Damp Bone Forest might be a place where Hashirama learned sage arts. He was from the forests and Tsunade learned this partially from where katsuiu is, that being said, if Tsunade’s skill was to regenerate at fast speeds, a skill Hashirama also had it stands to reason Tsunade, as the 1st granddaughter, learned the same sage arts as Hashirama, only incomplete.

    Now if you and 2 and 2 together, If Sakura went there to learn sage arts she might possess the same Sage Mode as Hashirama, it’s a bit of a strech but it’s the only other place someone can learn the skill and the eye markings on hashirama don’t resemble Orochimaru or Naruto’s so in conclusion they must be from the Shikkotsu Forest (Damp Bone Forest).

    Maybe the same place Hashirama learned Mokuton (Wood release) (Bone foreste), see the relation.

    Actually the more you look into this the more it starts to make sense.

  93. @thelaughingwiseman
    Or Sasuke was simply trolling Naruto about the whole becoming Hokage thing. I think we all know that’s not really going to happen. It’ll result in people hunting Kishi down with torches and pitchforks. XD

  94. @Eugen haha i know I know..it’s a long shot. Normally, I couldn’t care less if Sakura was a major player in a battle or not. When she asserted herself though Naruto and Sasuke it caught my attention. Now I’m just like “OK I think you deserve a shot..show me whatcha got”
    She has to be more useful than tenten 😉

  95. Bubblition

    You thought this could stop me
    You under estimate me
    You could of used both hands
    It’ll take more than just one nipple cripple take me down

    Caption: When battles can’t get any more epic

    Damn. It’s been a long time. When there is places to go and chocolate to eat time waits for no man. Anywho, this nin war has got a tad out hand i must say. It almost resident evil meets pokemon. Lets hope no one gets bitten. Been reading Gantz again after long pauses and not even you of those black suit could make Sakura useful. Admit it she has failed before and for her now to do something now would be just plain out of character. Oh wait Sasuke.

    (Back flips into a straw and disappears in to anonymity)

  96. Bubble 1: Damn it Kakashi! Do you know how long I’ve waited!

    Bubble 2 : Two years! Two whole friggen years, just to find our you EATED
    THE LAST COOKIE!!

    Bubble 3: So we had this idea, to cast an illusion of everlasting pastries over everyone with the ten tails.

    Bubble: And I… wait, why the hell are you looking at me like that? Oh shit! Is there a whole in my chest?!! Damn It Kakashi!

    Caption: Endless rants. Its at times like these where Kakashi wishes he still had his magazine. Kakashi…. misses, his magazine.

  97. “I personally don’t think the Izanami will work on Sasuke anymore. He seems to be resolute in his path now and the Izanami only works on those who don’t know who they are or who are unsure of themselves. Sasuke didn’t seem to have any doubts anymore after he made his decision to become Hokage.”

    I disagree, he’s changed his goals more often than Tobi has changed masks. I wouldn’t be surprised if at some time he decides to go medevil on Konoha again.

    “Still, one thing I think we shouldn’t do is compare the past Naruto and Sasuke to Itachi and Nagato. You’re using examples from when Naruto fought Nagato or Bee fought Sasuke, but both Naruto and Sasuke have become immeasurably stronger since that time. Naruto was only using a fraction of Kurama’s chakra when he fought Nagato and Itachi with Bee, but now they are partners and his speed and power have increased dramatically thanks to that, while Sasuke has gone from barely being able to use Amatarasu against Bee, to now having full control of his MS, in addition to now having the EMS.”

    I used those examples to highlight that Itachi and Nagato aren’t completely outclassed in terms of speed.
    While it’s true that Naruto and Sasuke are now a lot more powerful then ever before I don’t see how Naruto or Sasuke’s speed has dramatically increased. When Naruto fought Itachi and Nagato he was already faster than A. He was faster than the one ninja Sasuke couldn’t keep up with. Itachi, however, had no problem whatsoever following Naruto’s movements. The same goes for Nagato. I fail to see why Itachi and Nagato would be perfectly capable of fighting Naruto in Super Saiyan mode and Bee in Beast mode yet be incapable of fighting Naruto in Super Saiyan 2 mode and Sasuke who has never shown such tremendous speeds as Bee, A or Naruto in Super Saiyan mode.

    “We also need to remember that Naruto is currently battling a Rinnegan user on a level probably greater than Nagato”

    Nothing we’ve seen so far suggests Madara has more control over the Rinnegan than Nagato. All we’ve seen from Madara is Shinra Tensei. He hasn’t shown any of the other 6 Rinnegan powers. Nagato showed he was perfectly capable of using all 7 powers simultaneously to the extent that he made swift work of the two most powerful jinchuurikis.

    “The fact that he’s managed to last so long makes me think that with someone as strong as Sasuke on his side and his ability to share chakra would make the battle a lot less one sided.”

    True, Naruto’s chakra sharing abilities are something else entirely. But the question is, will that help against Itachi and Nagato’s attacks. Both of them have several non physical attacks that can’t be defended against with chakra shrouds or Susano’o armor. Nagato can pull Sasuke out of Susano’o with Bansho Tenin and Itachi’s Totsuka Sword can’t be blocked.

    “I think Naruto’s speed makes him capable of getting past the five second cooldown of Shinra Tensei”

    The 5 second cooldown was a rule for Deva Path. Nagato showed no such limitations. When he attacked Naruto and Bee he showed no interval between the two Shinra Tensei’s or his other powers.
    It stands to reason that without having to control 6 bodies through multiple chakra rods from several miles away, the limitations that tactic bring disappear.

    “There are ways however and I think Sage Mode or Amatarasu do offer some flexible possibilities.”

    True, Sage Mode will nullify Nagato’s Preta Path power and Amaterasu showed to be extremely effective against Nagato’s summons. But it leaves the problem of the 6 other powers Nagato posesses, and Itachi. The way I see it Itachi’s Totsuka Sword and Izanami are Naruto’s and Sasuke’s biggest problem respectively. I’m interested to find out if Sasuke’s EMS has granted him the Totsuka Sword or a variation of it. If that’s the case the battle will be pretty even. Perhaps this debate will get more interesting after the next few chapters in which we’ll undoubtedly learn Sasuke’s true power.

  98. Bubblition;

    Obito; “Eh Eeeeh ”
    Obito: “Eeeeeeeeh”
    Kakashi; “Sorry, I saw an opening that seemed to scream out attack.”
    Kakashi; “So, I did! HA!”

    Caption; “That must be the Obito Boom.”

    Bonus points for whoever gets the reference.

  99. @baron

    Actually, given your last point, this may be a debate that needs to be carried over to the next breakdown after we’ve gotten a glimpse of Sasuke’s true power. We’ve seen Naruto’s strength lately but Sasuke has mostly taken a back seat.

    I guess a lot will depend on what we see next.

  100. YAY!
    I WON!
    XDDDDDDDDDD
    Thanks for the breakdown Ten.

  101. Naruto and Sauske will take this match.

    Intellect is not going to be the shire power that these kids (Sauske and Naruto) have. Itachi can try and find a weakness, but how is he going to handle 5 Chakra Mode Narutos and Sauske douced in Naruto’s Chakra Cloak? These guys would be burning up a storm.

    Let me start with the Good about Naruto:
    Speed: He is the fastest Shinobi on the planet. Yeah Itachi can keep up with his movements (which I highly doubt), but his body wouldn’t even be able to react fast enough to dodge in close up attacks
    Stamina: With the perfect sync with Kurama, his Chakra is nearly limitless. Did you see how long Naruto was in Kurama mode and was able to feed about 40,000 soldiers at the same time? Now imagine if he can just keep all that chakra all to himself.
    Intelligence: Unpredictability is the ultimate counter to strategic minds. An average shinobi abides by ninja rules that they perfect to a “T”. That allows for strategist like Itachi to create a strategy to neutralize the enemy. But what if there is a person who goes out there with no fluid movement to fallow, with all his might finding any opening he can? You can’t prepare for something you have no real feel for. Naruto’s undpredictable nature can even cause whole battlefields to shift, confusing Itachi even more
    Power: Again, this dude has Kurama in him, and he can create mini rasenshuriken, he can create a Bijuu Dama. Bijuu Dama cause whole battle fields to shift. He is more powerful enough to escape from that little planet Nagato tried to create against him before. He won’t be able to do that to Naruto again.
    Taijutsu. Naruto can’t be touched with Frog Fu. He has the ability to force push people with his punches.
    Ninjutsu: Rasengan, and Rasenshuriken, Bijuu Dama, This dude could light up the night sky with those 3 alone. And guess what, he can make that light show with 10x the fun by making shadow clones in Kurama mode! How is Itachi going to hang on with their Chakra consuming eyes and jutsu against the likes of that? They can’t that’s how.
    Genjutsu: Naruto sucks at it. But he doesn’t need to worry about other people casting Genjutsu on him. It wont work because Kurama can tap him out. I think the same goes for Tsukiomi. Naruto doesn’t even need to have his eyes open in the fight anymore, he can sense Malevolent intent from far away. Why have your eyes open?

    Good About Sauske:
    Speed: He’s on par with Itachi and Nagato. I don’t see any advantage there.
    Stamina: He has been shown to go far beyond his limit to go through a battle (Danzo, Deirdara fights). But he is going against people with the same amount of stamina too (at this point…)
    Intelligence: Sauske can catch certain schemes as he keeps going into fights. He is a cunning fighter, using the environment to his advantage. He was able to notice the open room in the sky against Deirdara and use impromptu wings to get away. He created a genjutsu to make Danzo think he had one more Inzangi left. He created a Amerterasu shield for his Susano body. He opened up the roof to draw power from the clouds to create Karin. It’s like he evaluates his surrounding as much as his opponent during battles.
    Taijutus: Sauske has this capuiera/ free flow to his fighting style. Like he uses his limbs to create great maneuvers
    Ninjutsu: It seems like Sauske can now use what ever Technique he wants with out any hinderance. The only thing that holds him back is his stamina. He can call off Amerterasu flames, even if his brother calls upon them. His susano has a perfect form that can be douced in Amerterasu flames, so I don’t know what would win in a battle, an undying flame of Amerterasu or the sword of Totsuka that Itachi wields…
    Genjutsu: He’s alright in it but he doesn’t have an advantage here. He can only break from Tsukiyomi, which he has already done. Add EMS and I think Sauske can call it off on his own.

    Sauske and Naruto combo
    -Naruto can give Sauske Kurama cloak, increasing Sauske’s stamina and chakra a great amount. Kakashi was able to teleport a Bijuu with his power boost, imagine what Sauske can do with his ninjutsu.
    -Naruto can create multiple clones in Kurama cloak.
    -It is also shown that Kurama can wear Susaon like an armor. That can protect Naruto and Sauske from the sword of Totsuka that itachi has.
    -I don’t think Nagato can use all his powers at the same time. If he almight pushes Naruto into him, then he wouldn’t be able to repel Amerterasu.
    -Naruto can just rain down Bijuu dama until Itachi can’t keep up his Susanoo anymore. And what happens to Susanoo’s body also happens to the users body. I get this idea from Sauskes fight with A, when he was piledrived and when the Mizukage was poisoning his Susanoo (he was feeling some form of pain).
    Naruto is the winner of this fight!

  102. i think there should be a better debate. These fighters have gotten used up to the max. I propose another debate. Hinata vs Sakura. He wins in the fight.

  103. @Wiseman

    Well, that’s also a debate that has to wait until after the next chapter. Lol.

  104. Maybe i missed some pannels but I’ve seen nobody mention the yata mirror Itachi owned.

    Some food for thought:
    “Zetsu claimed that the yata mirror, combined with the Sword of Totsuka held in its right hand, essentially made Itachi’s Susanoo invincible.”

    Also we shouldn’t forget that if nagato wanted to kill Naturo back in their fight he could ve done so multiple times, of course Naruto has become monstrously strong after that fight. Tho i doubt the fight will be as one sided as some of you might think.

    If the fight drags out then it will be team Nasuke that will take the win, thanks to Naruto’s near infinite chakra pool and sasuke’s EMS.
    But if Nagato and Itachi can work out a strategy to end the fight quick.
    I’m pretty sure they would stand a fair chance.

  105. “Let me start with the Good about Naruto:
    Speed: He is the fastest Shinobi on the planet. Yeah Itachi can keep up with his movements (which I highly doubt), but his body wouldn’t even be able to react fast enough to dodge in close up attacks”

    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/549/6
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/549/7

    Here Itachi shows he’s perfectly capable of following, parrying, attacking and dodging Naruto. Remember, here Naruto is already faster than A. Itachi’s speed and reflexes are incredible/better than Sasuke’s.

    “With the perfect sync with Kurama, his Chakra is nearly limitless. Did you see how long Naruto was in Kurama mode and was able to feed about 40,000 soldiers at the same time? Now imagine if he can just keep all that chakra all to himself.”

    It’s not about going 15 rounds, it’s about being able to defend and resist attacks like Itachi’s Totsuka Sword, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Nagato’s Deva path, Preta Path, Asura Path, Human path and the formidable Outer Path.

    “Intelligence: Unpredictability is the ultimate counter to strategic minds. An average shinobi abides by ninja rules that they perfect to a “T”. That allows for strategist like Itachi to create a strategy to neutralize the enemy. But what if there is a person who goes out there with no fluid movement to fallow, with all his might finding any opening he can? You can’t prepare for something you have no real feel for. Naruto’s undpredictable nature can even cause whole battlefields to shift, confusing Itachi even more”

    Except Naruto is very predictable. His jutsu skill is limited and his tactics are always the same; charge the opponent head-on. Itachi has had no difficulty fighting Naruto’s ‘unpredictability’ before.

    “He is more powerful enough to escape from that little planet Nagato tried to create against him before. He won’t be able to do that to Naruto again.”

    I disagree. Yes Kurama was able to break out of it but at the time Nagato was using Deva Path to create it and had spent a lot of his chakra to get to that point. Even so Nagato mentioned he might have to make Chibaku Tensei bigger implying that he could make it bigger if he’s at full power/full health. Note that there’s almost no limit to how powerful/big Chibaku Tensei can be seeing as the Rikudo was capable of creating the moon to trap the Juubi.

    “Taijutsu. Naruto can’t be touched with Frog Fu. He has the ability to force push people with his punches.”

    Naruto can’t use Sage arts while using Kurama’s chakra. It’s one or the other. So, while Sage arts will give him an advantage in taijutsu it will leave him vulnerable in every other aspect.

    “Ninjutsu: Rasengan, and Rasenshuriken, Bijuu Dama, This dude could light up the night sky with those 3 alone. And guess what, he can make that light show with 10x the fun by making shadow clones in Kurama mode! How is Itachi going to hang on with their Chakra consuming eyes and jutsu against the likes of that? They can’t that’s how.”

    Shadow clones with Kurama chakra deplete his chakra pool a lot faster. He runs out of chakra very fast even without using clones. Kurama has already explained using large amounts of Kurama’s chakra wears Naruto out very fast. Shadow clones will only add to that.

    “Genjutsu: Naruto sucks at it. But he doesn’t need to worry about other people casting Genjutsu on him. It wont work because Kurama can tap him out. I think the same goes for Tsukiomi. Naruto doesn’t even need to have his eyes open in the fight anymore, he can sense Malevolent intent from far away. Why have your eyes open?”

    That last tactic is a viable one but Itachi has shown he can cast genjutsu through other means as well. As for Tsukuyomi, Itachi’s Tsukuyomi isn’t as ‘weak’ as Sasuke’s. Remember Kakashi explained getting caught by Itachi’s Tsukuyomi means game over as there’s no time for anyone else to tap you out. The reason Bee and Danzou were capable of breaking out of Sasuke’s Tsukuyomi is because Sasuke isn’t capable of controlling time and space with his. And the reason Sasuke broke free from Itachi’s is because Itachi wanted him to.

    “Speed: He’s on par with Itachi and Nagato. I don’t see any advantage there.”

    I disgaree. As I’ve said before, Itachi has no trouble fighting Super Saiyan Naruto who’s faster than Super Saiyan 2 A and Bee. Sasuke, however, couldn’t keep up with either A or Bee. He might be faster now and more on Itachi’s level but that’s just guess work at this point.

    “I don’t know what would win in a battle, an undying flame of Amerterasu or the sword of Totsuka that Itachi wields…”

    Probably the Sword of Totsuka as it’s an ethereal blade. It isn’t affected by anything. The only ‘drawback’ is it’s reach. But seeing as how big Susano’o is that’s hardly a disadvantage.

    “Sauske and Naruto combo
    -Naruto can give Sauske Kurama cloak, increasing Sauske’s stamina and chakra a great amount. Kakashi was able to teleport a Bijuu with his power boost, imagine what Sauske can do with his ninjutsu.”

    I would but that’s speculation and therefore guesswork. The only we can say with certainty is that Sasuke will be able to increase the power of his attacks and be able to last longer. At the price of Naruto lasting shorter.

    “-It is also shown that Kurama can wear Susaon like an armor. That can protect Naruto and Sauske from the sword of Totsuka that itachi has.”

    That was the physical Kurama. Naruto uses Kurama as a cloak similar to Susano’o when he goes into full 9 tails mode.
    As for Susano’o protecting agains the Sword of Totsuka, the sword can pierce everything. It can’t be blocked. It’s basically the Sword of Kusanagi but a lot more powerful and it will seal anything it pierces.

    “-I don’t think Nagato can use all his powers at the same time. If he almight pushes Naruto into him, then he wouldn’t be able to repel Amerterasu.”

    Not at the same time, no. But in quick succession. As he showed when fighting Naruto and Bee simultaneously.
    Even so, if Nagato pushes Naruto away with Shinra Tensei and Sasuke tries to use that opportunity to attack Nagato with Amaterasu, he will leave himself open for Itachi to attack him. And using Amaterasu takes time. More time than it takes Nagato to use Shinra Tensei for example.

    “-Naruto can just rain down Bijuu dama until Itachi can’t keep up his Susanoo anymore.”

    No he can’t. If he could he would have done that to try and kill Juubi.

  106. ““-Naruto can just rain down Bijuu dama until Itachi can’t keep up his Susanoo anymore.”

    No he can’t. If he could he would have done that to try and kill Juubi.”

    Actually, if Naruto wasn’t expending all his chakra to defend the alliance, he might have been on the offensive more and we may have seen more Bijuu Bombs flying around. In either case, we can’t even be sure whether Itachi’s defense is enough to survive one Bijuu Bomb. If one of Tsunade’s punches is enough to break through Susanoo’s defense, imagine what a Bijuu Bomb is capable of.

    In saying that though, I’m not 100% sure of how much the Yamata Mirror increases Itachi’s defense beyond the norm for Susanoo or what would actually happen if we pit it up against a direct hit from a Bijuu Bomb.

  107. “-Naruto can give Sauske Kurama cloak, increasing Sauske’s stamina and chakra a great amount. Kakashi was able to teleport a Bijuu with his power boost, imagine what Sauske can do with his ninjutsu.”
    I would but that’s speculation and therefore guesswork. The only we can say with certainty is that Sasuke will be able to increase the power of his attacks and be able to last longer. At the price of Naruto lasting shorter. ”

    In addition to this:
    Don’t forget that part of Kakashi’s MS boost was thanks to Obito aswell,
    it was clearly stated that once the 2 eyes are near eachother they become a lot stronger.

  108. LiveAid

    But Kakashi’s improvement was never attributed to Obito being near him. It was only attributed to Naruto’s chakra boost. If it was as you suggested, I’m sure that would have been mentioned by Kakashi at some point when he was talking to Shikaku.

    Remember that Kakashi was battling with Obito for quite some time before Naruto gave him chakra and his Kamui never showed any real improvement at that time. Madara mentioned that the sharingan show their true power when they are in a pair, but I don’t think to opposing sharingan clashing against each other in different bodies constitutes a “pair” so to speak.

  109. I’m gonna have to go with Ten on the sharingan issue, I always interpreted that statement as “if you have both eyes you’re stronger then with one eye”, but only in a single individual case, I don’t think Obito grasped the essence of those words. Madara was stating he would be more powerful if he had 2 sharingan eyes instead of one, witch was his case back in the cave.

    Obito took it as given and thought he would get stronger if he and Kakashi were closer together. Sure enough, they both achieved the MS at the same time, a feat I doubt either one would have done on there own. And, unlike many have stated Obito was the one to initiate the MS ascension, not Kakashi. Being a Uchiha it was only logical he’s feelings of loss were the trigger for the evolution of the eye, just like Tobirama previously stated to Sasuke, Kakashi couldn’t have done that no matter how hard he tried.

  110. Itachi will loose but it will all be part of an elaborate plan that actually means he wins and Nagato will die and have a flashback sooooo long that Naruto and the rest will die of old age thus win the battle…

    Naruto is super over powered by the logic we been reading, Powering 40 000 shinobi and saying that if Naruto had it all he would be 40 000 times more powerful… Well that is insanely overpowered… @___@ But I don’t dis agree with the logic since I been saying for Months that Naruto’s growth has been too great and his power is actually getting over board… He was once the under dog we all loved now he is the God of Shinobi reborn,

    More powerful that Hashirama and Madara @__@

  111. @Baron

    Since he has synced much better with Kurama, he can hold that form longer. Kurama explained that since they hadn’t been synced for long (when Naruto finally got Kurama on his side) that they could only hold that form for about 10 minutes. But their bond has grown much stronger. And it has lasted quite a while.

    Having 40,000 shinobi protected in Kurama Cloak didn’t deter Naruto from fighting a few rounds with a Juubi, Tobi and Madara. So, giving something to Sauske wouldn’t make him lose his chakra faster.

    It is given that Sauske will get a power boost and that his stamina would replenish. I take these given from what I’ve seen from Kakashi’s experience and his conversation with Shikaku

    If this battle gets drawn out Itachi and Nagato will lose. Naruto and Sauske can go the mile. Itachi would have to constantly spam his MS to keep in the fight. As he does so, he would go blind. And look how short it took for Sauske to lose his eye sight when he fought Bee, the Kages, and Danzou with his MS. Those fights took about a an hour or 2 in total.

    Amerterasu would be ineffective for Itachi because Sauske can diminish the flames. Sauske could use it how ever he wants now since he has the EMS, and he wont go blind.

    In order to use the Dream Sword and the Yata mirror, Itachi is going to have to pull out his Susanoo. That means he has to use his MS. Which means he will go blind.

    This means that Itachi is going to have to find a way to end this fight as soon as possible or risk being unable to use his MS power anymore and go blind.

    He is going to need to keep his composure and use Nagato’s help as much as possible.

    Also, in Itachi’s little skirmishes with Naruto, they weren’t really fighting at all. They were trying to talk. Naruto was trying to keep Itachi in close proximity to him to get some answers. Itachi was fighting with Bee. And Naruto was fighting against Nagato. So I don’t know how you could say Itachi is faster than Naruto, it’s not even proven. (http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/549/5, this is the chapter you referenced)

    Naruto is proven to be the fastest man alive because he was able to pass A. I don’t think Naruto will take it lightly if his intent is to kill the opposition.

    Fighting against Pein, and Kakuzu proved that he doesn’t only fight charging in. He was very creative in his battle. He can plant clones all around the battle field as rocks. send in multiple clones to test out what the opposition can do.

    I still don’t know where you’re getting how Naruto can be drained if it was just he and Sauske using the Kurama Cloak. Naruto had been in Kurama Mode since he left iron Turtle Island all the way until he fought against the other 5 Jinchuruki and Tobi. That is a pretty long while. And he had his other clones (also in Kurama mode) fighting in other fronts. Again, that is not getting fatigued in a short time. That is a long durantion of fights he had gone through. His first instances was because he wasn’t properly synced with Kurama, and the 2nd was because he had just given about 40,000 shinboi a piece of his chakra. Yeah, so I don’t think Naruto is going to get fatigued as easily as you think he is. Since Naruto isn’t going to feel that draw back, neither is Sauske, since Naruto will be sharing with him through out the battle.

    Naruto and Sauske can attack from long range and keep their distances. Naruto can spam Mini raseshuriken to the big ones, while Sauske can use his arrows to hit the other guys. Nagato would be able to counter by making this a close range fight. That is the only chance Nagato & Itachi have to win. Itachi’s sword can only go so far, and Nagato would be able to use his Path’s of Pein better.

    Nagatos Animal Path is pretty useless. It can only summon animals that Sauske can ignite with Amerterasu. That leaves 5 paths that can be effective. The Deva path that can attract and repel. He can’t use those powers at the same time, like I said, but Sauske can counter by being in his Susanoo and fire an Arrow at Nagato, which is much more faster then the Amerterasu flames catching Nagato. Nagato will be set ablaze, and none of his other paths can help him. He can’t use his Naraka path to revive him.

    Nagato needs to use the attract power to bring his opponent closer to him, to be able to grab him and yank out his soul (with Human path) and place that soul in the Naraka Path for safe keeping. Naruto showed he can manuever away from the attracting power of the Deva path by using shadow clones to hold on or by using his Kurama arm to move away. Sauskes Susano has shown to be a great place holder to not get sucked in, like that Elephant vacuum (which I think is as strong a juts as the attraction one of the Deva Paths).

    Naruto can send a rasenshuriken but that would get absorbed by the Preta Path. But not an actually object like the Arrow of Sauskes. I also don’t think the Preta PAth can absorb a Bijuu Dama. Hell a Bijuu dama doesn’t even have to hit him directly, Naruto can shoot with in 4 meters of Nagato and still be as destructive.

    Naruto can also draw on his numbers to Fight and disrupt the battle by summoning toads. He can summon ma and pa frog to use slime or sound genjutsu to rattle Nagato. He can have his 3 chief toads as fodder to try and expend more of Nagato’s and Itachi’s energy.

  112. The second time Naruto used full 9 tails mode it lasted 8 minutes. That was without Naruto defending 40.000 shinobi with his chakra. Kurama only gave chakra to Kakashi. Which ever way you slice it, that’s not going the distance. In Super Saiyan mode 1 Naruto can last a lot longer but his power output is also a lot lower.

    I don’t see this fight going the distance. Not with Nagato’s Rinnegan powers and Itachi’s Izanami and Sword of Totsuka. The only reason Itachi went blind when he fought Sasuke is because he had already used his eyes extensively up to that point. In this debate Itachi is at full health/perfect eyesight.
    Seeing as you mentioned Sasuke made his eyes last well over 2 hours and the fact that Itachi was more skilled with his eyes than Sasuke we can safely say Itachi won’t go blind as soon he calls forth Susano’o. Remember Itachi’s Susano’o was already fully developed when he revealed it to Sasuke. That means he’s used and perfected it at least a few times before.

    Yes Amaterasu is ineffective as long as Sasuke is around to cancel the flames. But Izanami isn’t. Also, if Sasuke tries to extinguish the flames he’ll leave himself open to attack from either Nagato or Itachi. Sasuke’s amaterasu nullifying technique wasn’t exactly a quick-fire sort of attack.

    ” So I don’t know how you could say Itachi is faster than Naruto”

    I never said Itachi is faster than Naruto. I said he was perfectly capable of sparring with one of, if not, the fastest shinobi. You said Itachi wouldn’t even be able to follow Naruto’s movement. I proved he can.
    And Naruto and Bee not being able to hit Itachi certainly wasn’t for a lack of trying.

    “Naruto and Sauske can attack from long range and keep their distances. Naruto can spam Mini raseshuriken to the big ones, while Sauske can use his arrows to hit the other guys. Nagato would be able to counter by making this a close range fight. That is the only chance Nagato & Itachi have to win.”

    Nagato and Itachi are perfectly capable of fighting over longer distance. Itachi has got the Yasaka Magatama which can be used in multiple variations.
    But Nagato is the real danger from a distance. With his bansho tennin he can nullify any attack. Remember he deflected Kurama’s bijuu bomb when Naruto went 6 tails.
    And with Chibaku Tensei he can strike from a distance. And as I’ve said before, with full health and chakra Nagato can make Chibaku Tensei a lot stronger than when he tried to trap Naruto.
    Seeing as it took Bee, Naruto in Super Saiyan form AND Itachi’s Yasaka Magatama to succesfully counter Chibaku Tensei I’d say Naruto and Sasuke alone will have a big problem when Nagato launches it at them. Especially with Itachi and Nagato’s summons to keep them busy.

    “Nagatos Animal Path is pretty useless. It can only summon animals that Sauske can ignite with Amerterasu.”

    Leaving plenty of time for Itachi or Nagato to counter. And seeing as Sasuke will have to open his eyes to cast Amaterasu…. Izanami,… Sasuke’s out.

    “The Deva path that can attract and repel. He can’t use those powers at the same time, like I said, but Sauske can counter by being in his Susanoo and fire an Arrow at Nagato”

    Which Nagato can counter by pulling a huge chunk of land out of the earth shielding him from the arrows and blocking Sasuke’s Amaterasu at the same time. After which Nagato will have some time to charge the Chibaku Tensei and launch it from behind cover.

    “Sauskes Susano has shown to be a great place holder to not get sucked in, like that Elephant vacuum (which I think is as strong a juts as the attraction one of the Deva Paths).”

    Actually, that vacuum technique created an opening. Danzou almost managed to take advantage of it as well. As for Susano’o being a great place holder, Gaara managed to pull Madara out of his Susano’o relatively easy. Susano’o is a very powerful shield, it’s not an exoskeleton or anything like that.

    “Naruto can shoot with in 4 meters of Nagato and still be as destructive.”

    Like when Deva Path fought 6-tails Naruto,… Bansho Tennin. The explosion ruffled Deva Paths clothes. That’s about it.
    Look at where Deva Path is and where the Bijuu Dama hits the ground. I’d say that’s about 2-3 meters away.
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/438/8

    And here’s the damage it caused;
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/438/13

    Even if Naruto’s full 9 tails Bijuu Dama would have an effect, Nagato could go Troll and use Bansho Tennin on the ground right in front of Naruto.
    Naruto; “Bijuu-Da-”
    Nagato; (speaking really fast) “Banshotenin”
    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

    “Naruto can also draw on his numbers to Fight and disrupt the battle by summoning toads. He can summon ma and pa frog to use slime or sound genjutsu to rattle Nagato”

    Last time they assisted Naruto ma and pa frog were turned into shish kebab and Deva Path defeated the 3 big toads with one Shinra Tensei. I think they’d be of more use if they stayed at Mt. Myobokuzan where they won’t have to be protected by Naruto.

  113. Itachi wins after using the never heard of Sarutahiko. Naruto and Sasuke are instantly defeated.
    Bubblition: Somewhere far along this road I lost my soul
    To a woman so heartless
    How could she be so heartless?
    How could she be so heartless?
    Caption: But isn’t Kakashi a dude?

  114. I would like for Naruto to fuse both Sage Mode and Kurama Cloak already. It’d make fighting for him much more easier. http://www.mangapanda.com/93-449-6/naruto/chapter-444.html

  115. Hey guys (and girls if they exist xD )
    Just to give my quick input about the current events in Narutoverse
    I couldn t believe the similarity between Naruto in
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-449-11/naruto/chapter-444.html
    and Sasuke in
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/619/19
    Is this really a turning point for Sasuke ? I would like to hear the forum thoughts and yours Tenrai
    My opinion that Sasuke isn t that easy to change in his heart especially after the hole fuss that his chakra is evil and cold
    pozdrav 🙂

  116. @ Pavo Menix, try re-posting in the new breakdown so everyone can join in the discussion.

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